furtech: (nodurian!)
furtech ([personal profile] furtech) wrote2010-06-09 11:24 am

I have low hopes for Generation-Me

I wish there was an "ignorance" ap that prevented me from seeing posts from nitwits. I think it could be popular.

What people know/don't-know continues to boggle me. This is from a post on the fursuit-LJ community:

"... seeing as the US has a trade embargo against Cuba."

"Wow, seriously?"


Someone wanted to know how to ship a costume to Cuba . The scary thing is that the replier above is -not- the shipper who asked the question, but someone else who didn't know about the Cuban-US situation. A third (not)helpful person describes in detail how they ship to Germany and knows this will work shipping to Cuba because they've shipped to Germany twice.

This reminds me of a BBS conversation where a poster stated that the Arab-Israeli conflict was stoopid and they should just sit down and agree not to fight. When it was pointed out that this had been going on for some time, they replied in amazement, "What, like 50 years?!?" Oy.

[identity profile] merrycalliope.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Just...wow. Ouch.

[identity profile] slave-to-anime.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, an app like that would probably do the only sane thing, and cut oneself off from the internet. The only way to be sure.

That said, this is rather low on the totem pole of things people are ignorant about that I worry about. Not knowing about the trade embargo between the US and Cuba does require ignoring some history lessons, but it's not completely common knowledge. I don't even know if the situation with Cuba is taught much in schools to begin with, and it requires some actual insight into world affairs that maybe some people don't actually study.

Really, I'm more concerned about people who don't know the types of things that, say, a person taking a citizenship test for the US would be expected to know. While it seems kind of silly that people wouldn't know about the trade embargo with countries like Cuba, it worries me much less than the people who don't understand, for example, the concept of the Bill of Rights or the protections in the First Amendment.

[identity profile] fenris-lorsrai.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The "oy!" made me snicker.


Subverting the embargo is really easy, if expensive. A lot of Cuban cigars are wrapped with tobacco from Connecticut... which is exported to an intermediary, then shipped to Cuba. Cuba then ships back to intermediary and they sell through there and restamp them as product of X and send them to the States. The channels for that are really well set up. All it does at this point is line pockets of intermediaries.

It's probably one of the most poorly enforced embargoes out there. I would be so happy if we just stopped kidding ourselves that its working.

[identity profile] gilmorelion.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This kind of thing is the reason I don't watch the "Jay-Walking" segments on Leno. It just makes my head hurt.

[identity profile] kvogel.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
While visiting JC, she went to the Bank for biz, and there was a CCN feed in the lobby. One of the bank clerks suddenly starts in reaction, gosh wow, how long has the oil spill in the Gulf been going on and what's to be done? The easily read caption under the footage of spewing oil said Day 49.

[identity profile] thornwolf.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Hey um...this post isn't filtered or even friends only. Just FYI! D:

[identity profile] vulpesrex.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
In a country where more people care about how the last episode of "Dancing with the Stars" or "America's Next Superstar" went, but who don't watch network news programs ("The Mainstream Media is Liberal-Biased") or read newspapers - and that last is so bad, many major metropolitan newspapers are shutting their doors - and EVERTHING presented visually is done at the frantic pace calculated to match the attention span of people raised on MTV music videos - well, you shouldn't be surprised.

The way that we teach history is a crime; it wasn't all that great when I was a kid, in the '60's (I graduated from High School in the Bay Area in 1974). If it isn't happening NOW, people are just not interested in it; there is a stunning lack of any intellectual curiosity in the populace today. It was perhaps one of the most glaring faults in our last president, that he just wasn't curious about things...Thankfully he had Staff for that, but too much of that staff had a bias, and were not the least bit bashful about inserting it.

...Just don't ask anyone to find Havana (or Habana) on a map...

[identity profile] fatkraken.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
"they should just sit down and agree not to fight"

Seems like a good idea to me :P

In seriousness though, while it's frustrating when people are ignorant of world affairs or anything going on outside their little bubble of existence, you can either despair or take it as a chance to educate them. Often it's not their fault directly, they've been let down by the education system, or the media, or they simply didn't have an upbringing where curiosity was encouraged and nurtured


Also, if it helps, Spreebok is British, not American. Still not the best excuse, but the embargo is not routinely taught in schools here before the subjects split off, so the only way younger people tend to know about it is if there's a documentary or a segment on an international news program

[identity profile] jonnywoof.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"... seeing as the US has a trade embargo against Cuba."

"Wow, seriously?"


Ermm....maybe a victim of California's public school system? *rimshot*